Sunday, 2 September 2012

Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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OK guys, I see flat calm o this thread... ;)
Let's back to the idea with looped coil. It is not important this coil will be ordinary solenoid coil or bifilar.
They are all waiting for the new laws of physics to be officially established. :)

I still don't see how a coil with 78 ohms resistance can provide 9 amps of current at 220V. Hence

a) either new laws of physics are in place or
b) this circuit is a piece of legerdemain.

Anyone tried to power a 2KW (25 ohms) heater with such a small transformer (78 ohms secondary) the standard way by connecting the primary to the grid?

A KD502 can do 20 amps but only at 60 volts. That means the voltage of 220V must originate in the transformer. So this transformer is a magic one after all.

And the blue coil still does nothing except to cancel out its own magnetic field because of the reversed windings.

Regards


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Hello Verpies ,
I just have finished my 2 Mhz power amplifier on the PA107DP chip .
This is why I did not have any new results regarding yoke device .
You are right . It is difficult to tune this device . Few times I have atchieved the sinus wave signals on the 50 turns coil but? did not understood the couses from which its depends ( from strenght of? generator output or the dimension? of U-shape turn) .

The PA107DP is a good amplifier but it's way too expenive.? I feel guilty for having it mentioned to you.
If you followed its documentation, then you Signal Generator should be well protected and its signal strengthed significantly.
What did you use for the ~100V power supply ?

Regarding the tuning, I recommend asking for help the people that? were sucessful with it at least once.? I think they are not like Tariel Kapanadze and are willing to guide you.? It may also help you to read and watch all of the links in Slapper's Reply #13247 and remember that for NMR you need to excite the core in at least 2 dimensions (corewise).

From myself I can add, that a wide and thick copper foil is essential for the U-shaped turn in the Yoke Device.?
A copper braid is unsuitable.? Thin or aluminum foil might be a mistake, too.


Regarding the tuning, I recommend asking for help the people that? were sucessful with it at least once.? I think they are not like Tariel Kapanadze and are willing to guide you.? It may also help you to read and watch all of the links in Slapper's Reply #13247 and remember that for NMR you need to excite the core in at least 2 dimensions (corewise).

From myself I can add, that a wide and thick copper foil is essential for the U-shaped turn in the Yoke Device.?
A copper braid is unsuitable.? Thin or aluminum foil might be a mistake, too.


For NMR - first of all you need to imagine entire picture in 3D how each little compass needle (atom spin) can be rotated when you introduce two magnetic signals on 90 degrees to each other. Then you need to keep one signal as current for driving transformer action and second on making core's atoms spin to dealign from main polarization on their natural resonant oscillating frequency.

Only after this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h611QzPsDQI process will be much more clear how to apply in your specific situation with your yoke or other core based transformer with two primary coils and third on tank circuit(90 degrees copper strip with capacitor) or similar setup magnetic fields vectors crossing core in 3D and doing reonant magnetic oscillation.
Then go back to http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg303720/#msg303720 and read my posts all over again (sorry for picture links to website there, it gone down).

Also here is same energy extraction from NMR effect described in patents:
?http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/GB763062.pdf
?http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm

Cheers!


It is obvious to me that TK does not want us to see what is inside his aquarium (it's a "black box" for all intents and purposes).

I would go even further. Inside the Aquarium there is a black box (no quotes). In every demonstration of TK, there is always a box that is sealed and not accessible to onlookers.
By now, I am sure that TK's? conversion devices are not the ones that are visible and recognizable in his demonstrations.
I would start from ...? the coil; it has as many shapes and sizes as the number of demonstrations he released to the public. This last blue coil (Aquarium 2), terrace wound, with the stiff wire doughnut shaped coil at one end was simply too much, too cheesy. My view has changed dramatically; "TK's coil" is no longer "the coil".? The exposed coil, "adored" and debated on endless pages of discussion forums is just a coil and serves a purpose of a coil and not the purpose of energy conversion.? The secret is always hidden in a box.
Please review the videos; starting from the tin can, through the "green box", through aquariums...
Count the number of sizable square boxes in the Turkey videos, both the one with huge sparks and the recent ones. How many sealed boxes are? visible in this photo?
@Zeitmaschine

Thanks for posting the other option I had mentioned in my last post. Yes, this is #2 way.

Quote
The connection from output to ground is either of these two possibilities but I am convinced it is 1.
1) HV+ (C) -> Load -> TKc -> Ground Wire (or)
2) HV+ (C) -> TKc -> Load -> Ground Wire.
Unquote

Although the HV- going to that transistor is not correct because there is no wire to support it and that HV- does not need a transistor.

There are two possibilities with the wires as seen.

Also in the post I indicated that the coax is open ended on the HV+ side but could be shorted to the center conductor HV+ before going to load. This works either way.

So imagine the HV+ is going inside the coax, the effect on the shield wire will be great and all positive heading for load. This you did not take into account on the amperage ability. But at least we are talking the same language.

About cancellation, I don't think so because the shielding will be energized so the center conductor will not even see the other layer conductors. It is like this wire was straight or coiled, will not make any difference and will not cancel out. The only thing it can do all coiled up in a TKc is produce a more condensed mass effect for more ether to pile on the shielding and increase amperage. This is the only way possible for this to work as you mentioned, by themselves they cannot and you are right about that.?

Either way, the triple transformer connection and usages that I mentioned could still apply. Also your wind ratios are the same as mine, turn quantity is irrelevant if you stick to the ratios.

Thanks for making the diagram. Really nice work.

@stivep

I just purchased that 1000 foot roll of triax cable but am in Canada. Well not the first roll. I bid $100 and a guy beat me in the last 5 seconds at $102.50 (imagine). But there was a second one. This time I put 100$ and put a max bid of $120, but at 25 seconds I got this bad feeling and increased my max bid to $140. I got it at $132.50 so his max bid was $130 and I won. This cable is selling for $2 a foot.

I am wondering if I can have that spool shipped to you in NYC and ask if you could cut me two 200' lengths and send me the two lengths, use the rest yourself as a gift and send some to anyone else that will build and test. If this is OK, could you please PM me your address and I will ask the seller to ship it to you. But either way, please let me know if you can or not. hehehe

But I am winding a regular coax this weekend and put it on my bencheroni. Can't wait to test with or without shield shorting to center conductor.?

wattsup

? Last Edit: Today at 05:03:53 AM by wattsup ?


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I would go even further. Inside the Aquarium there is a black box (no quotes). In every demonstration of TK, there is always a box that is sealed and not accessible to onlookers.
By now, I am sure that TK's? conversion devices are not the ones that are visible and recognizable in his demonstrations.
I would start from ...? the coil; it has as many shapes and sizes as the number of demonstrations he released to the public. This last blue coil (Aquarium 2), terrace wound, with the stiff wire doughnut shaped coil at one end was simply too much, too cheesy. My view has changed dramatically; "TK's coil" is no longer "the coil".? The exposed coil, "adored" and debated on endless pages of discussion forums is just a coil and serves a purpose of a coil and not the purpose of energy conversion.? The secret is always hidden in a box.
Please review the videos; starting from the tin can, through the "green box", through aquariums...
Count the number of sizable square boxes in the Turkey videos, both the one with huge sparks and the recent ones. How many sealed boxes are? visible in this photo?

In that photo of that demo, consider there is one real Tesla coil producing HV+ and all those other towers are TKc's that are then paralleled into three phase. I counted one Tesla coil plus 8 towers that I could easily see but there could be 9 towers, paralleled in threes then feeding the three phases.

TK has no choice but to always hide something. It could be the most mundane things to hide, but you and I will always be asking questions. His secret could be totally in plain view.

Story.....

A guy works in a gold mine for 35 years and everyday he brings out a wheel barrel full of earth through the front gates, where one of the guards checks the contents of the earth to see if he is stealing some gold. But every day, the guard finds nothing. When the worker retires a few years later, he meets the guard in a pub and they start having a few bears. After a while the guard asks the worker off record, "How did you steal the gold? Where did you hide it?". The worker says, "I never stole any gold. It was the wheel barrels I took." hehehe

So sometimes what is in plain sight could be the secret but since he always had a black box, this is enough to keep you on edge for ages. Imagine if you saw the complete device, an experienced guy would be able to pin point any and all possible functions so fast. So TK keeps some stuff in a box thinking this will keep their secret. The box is never big enough to harbor any serious batteries so his point is made load and clear for the demo buyers and he is free to continue without anyone finding his secret. hehehe?

If it is a trick, it is a damn good one.

wattsup


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@All:

As many of you already know the Keshe Foundation is about to demonstrate some very exiting new technologies,
?to all the leaders of the world that are willing to attend his presentation on Sept. 06, 2012.? ?

After studying Mehran Keshe's new view of Matter and Energy I believe he has something legit.
?I also believe that if the members on this thread put 1/10 of the study and work into solving Keshe's technology,
?we could have a working device in a very short time that all here can replicate.?

So I have started a new topic under solid state devices:?

http://www.overunity.com/12661/mehran-t-keshe-technologies/msg334327/#msg334327

My reasons for posting here is because so many visit this thread and also it may be possible that Tariel's device
contains similar technology to Keshe's but it is hidden inside the unit.?



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What did you use for the ~100V power supply ?

2 Tdg2-0.2 voltage regulators with bridge reactifier? and 680*200V electrolitics capasitors.
@AbbaRue

Thanks for that info. I have seen a few of his youtubes. Anyone that can advance in the name of OU is a good guy in my book.

@all

My regular coax TKc is a 60-30-15 so I will try it with that this weekend. Winding this is a real hand killer. I don't think Tariel wound his last coils himself.

Hopefully my new variable frequency method will last long enough to see some effects. lolololol

wattsup


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They are all waiting for the new laws of physics to be officially established. :)

I still don't see how a coil with 78 ohms resistance can provide 9 amps of current at 220V. Hence

a) either new laws of physics are in place or
b) this circuit is a piece of legerdemain.

Anyone tried to power a 2KW (25 ohms) heater with such a small transformer (78 ohms secondary) the standard way by connecting the primary to the grid?

A KD502 can do 20 amps but only at 60 volts. That means the voltage of 220V must originate in the transformer. So this transformer is a magic one after all.

And the blue coil still does nothing except to cancel out its own magnetic field because of the reversed windings.

Regards

Hi Zeitmaschine
we must start thinking self. Not still analysing TK pictures...



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For NMR - first of all you need to imagine entire picture in 3D how each little compass needle (atom spin) can be rotated when you introduce two magnetic signals on 90 degrees to each other. Then you need to keep one signal as current for driving transformer action and second on making core's atoms spin to dealign from main polarization on their natural resonant oscillating frequency.
That's sound advice.
I'd like to add that the statement "introduce two magnetic signals on 90 degrees to each other" can mean two things:
1) these 2 magnetic signals must be 90 degrees out-of-phase to each other.? This is a temporal relation.
2) these 2 magnetic fields must not be parallel to each other in the core (perpendicular is ideal).? This is a spatial relation.

P.S.
"Perpendicular" or "Parallel" refers to the spatial orientaion relative to the shape of the core material.

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